
Don't want no drama, no, no, no drama. Yet we got drama, some, some, some drama. Most recently from the WSU chapter of GLBTA (gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered alliance).
It all started when nationally syndicated sex columnist and Seattle native Dan Savage came to WSU earlier this week for a R-71 (protect marriage referendum) debate and GLBTA started promoting the event.
Now, the Evergreen has come out officially in support of gay rights. And we've had a good working relationship with the GLBTA for as long as I've worked at the E.G. I think they're a good group of people who benefit the community with their events and activities. Plus, we've officially taken a stand for R-71.
So you can imagine our surprise when the event organizers got a conservative Evergreen columnist William Stetson to get on stage with Savage and began promoting the event as an "The Evergreen vs. the gays" kind of thing.
They made it out to be like he was representing us, our views and our organization. Which he was not.
We found out about this about a week before the event. That same day R. King (P.S. thanks for the use of the screen shot) sent the GLBTA a polite e-mail asking them to take us off their promo material. They responded politely and said they would.
But come the day of the debate our name was still being thrown around in association with the event. The GLBTA's Facebook page still had us on its event information and people were tweeting and posting Facebook updates that said things like, "Going to see Dan Savage debate The Evergreen, lolz."
So rather than bite our tongues and allow people to jump the conclusion that the E.G was somehow heterosexist we wrote an editorial and leveled a shot across the GLBTA's bow.
Needless to say, they weren't happy (see above). And all day people have been generously taking time out of their busy schedules to remind us how badly we suck and how much they hate us. So that's been nice.
My favorite comment above though is the first that says "the evergreen is a bunch of little punk asses ... no one likes to REALLY ask questions ... if they had to ask questions then they'd have to WORK, instead of worrying about their next party."
Haha. I was unaware we had such a reputation as party animals. Though we do frequently take reporting breaks to do keg stands and draw on each others' faces with sharpies, it's like Greek week in here guys, srsly.
And I can honestly say, in all my time on earth standing at 6'2 and weighing in at 240 lbs., I have never been called a "little punk ass." It's kind of adorable.
I also liked the original post that instructed people to write us letters and, "Let them know that as a newspaper, their job is to ask questions and not just guess why an intellectual lightweight bigot is on-stage."
Frankly I don't understand this well written, painstakingly crafted pearl of wisdom. First of all "on stage" is two words. But beyond the glaringly obvious fact that the author has a very poor command of the English language we didn't have to guess why Stetson was there, we knew.
He was there because event organizers were scrambling to find ANY country bumpkin conservative who would be foolish enough to get on stage with heavy hitter like Savage. And since Stetson was the ONLY conservative within a 100 square miles they could find who would agree to get publicly mocked by the community and verbally pummeled by Savage, guess who became a whipping boy?
Stetsy-wetsy, that's who.
I attended part of the debate and let's just say, it was like watching Sugar Ray Leonerd beat up a baby. I felt bad for the red-faced, sweating Stetson, but not that bad. No one should have the right to tell anyone else what they can do or where they can stick their penis or vagina, that's why they're called privates.
But my favorite part was when Savage asked Stetson why gay marriage was wrong and Stetson replied, "because it IS!"
Ah sir, your powers of rhetoric and persuasion are powerful and impressive, clearly you have been trained in the art of argument.
Yeah brah, all we ever did was take hits off the copybong and listen to review-copy CDs.
ReplyDeleteThe fact that Stetson column had ran just a few days before the debate against R-71 certainly didn't make things less confusing for people. I think most people that have read the Evergreen knew that Stetson hardly spoke for the entire Evergreen but people that don't like the Evergreen saw it as another example to bash it.
ReplyDeleteMy favorite part was when I asked Stetson how the Domestic Partnership had affected his life at all. He kind of tried to change the subject so I clarified and asked him if he can name one time he was affected by Domestic Partnerships and he said, "No.
To be clear Stetson was completely outclassed. But it wasn't because Savage was an Ali out there, Stetson was just a bad debater arguing a bad point.
As someone who did high school debate for 3 years I saw some problems with the forum. the debate forum gave Stetson an opportunity to shine. The main part is Savage and Holden spoke for over thirty minutes before Stetson got a rebuttal. But it became painfully clear that Stetson didn't have a clue how to debate right away. His power point was ridiculous, he was constantly using qualifiers instead of stating his opinion. His examples were cherry picked and it was painfully obvious. He seemed to be doubting himself as he went forward. Occasionally he yelled and it was just humiliating. I felt a bit embarrassed for him, but he knew EXACTLY what he was getting himself into.
Enlightening post to say the least though Dom.
*curls into the fetal position*
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